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What is An EFIE and Do I Need One With My HHO Kit- Part 2

In Part 1, we talked about the basics of fuel injection, how they work and why you need an EFIE or Diesel chip with an HHO kit on a modern car.

We talked about how injectors are controlled by the cars computer (ECM) to determine how long they stay open or closed, and how fast they open or close. The ECM decides those parameters using a programmed set of "fuel maps", that utilize the information from the cars sensors to determine if the engine needs more gas or less gas. 

How Do EFIE's Affect the Fuel Injectors with an HHO kit Working?

Computers can only do what they are programmed for. They can't tell if you are going up a hill or towing a trailer, or anything else, without reading the information from the sensors first. The two key sensors are the O2 sensors in the exhaust to monitor oxygen levels, and the MAF or MAP sensors that monitor the flow of incoming air and the manifold vacuum.

The sensors transmit the data to the cars ECM using very tiny millivolt signals. An O2 sensor may be in the 400 millivolt range for example. When you install one of our EFIE's, you use a volt meter to adjust that millivolt rating down to say 300 millivolts. By doing this, you are telling the car computer to "Lean Out" the fuel, which allows the HHO generator to supply the additional energy, and still save fuel (If you do this without adding an alternative fuel, you will notice a lack of power, and could even burn your valves, so ONLY do this when injecting a new fuel like HHO gas). AN efie gas tuner allows you to slowly tweak and test to get the optimum performance from your hho generator.

The MAF sensor works on the same premise, but measures the mass air flow going into the engine to determine the work the engine is doing (engine load). When you use our EFIE or Diesel Chip, you adjust them to reduce the engine load setting. In other words, you are telling the car computer that it has a 20% lighter engine load than it actually is (for example). The computer then reduces fuel because of that. 

It is not as complicated as it may seem at first. You simply locate the one signal wire on a sensor and connect it to our EFIE or Diesel Chip, then adjust it with a screwdriver. After that, you never mess with it again. (we show you how to locate the wire, install it and adjust it in our free manual). 

By changing the signals ever so slightly, you are teaching the car computer how to reduce the gas or diesel usage, when supplemented by pure hydrogen and oxygen gas. That is the Long term way to make your hho kit function as both an emission reducer and fuel saver, without loss of power or performance.

Stay tuned for Part 3 where we get into the Pro series level chips and how they differ from our advanced series.

If you have any questions- feel free to email us!

Until next time,
Bob

 

What is An EFIE and Do I Need One With My HHO Kit?

This question is one of the most argued points when it comes to HHO generator kits on vehicles, so I thought it would be a good idea to go ahead and address the issue.

What Is An EFIE?

An EFIE stands for Electronic Fuel Injection Enhancer, and it was really invented back many years ago by a man named George Wiseman, who then shared it with the world to use as necessary to help cars with fuel injection work well with HHO boosters. The file was quickly shared all over the internet and became the standard for most EFIE's still in use today, though they have been vastly improved, and operate smarter (like in our advanced EFIE designs).

Why Are They Needed?

The tuner circuits were invented as a response to the advancement in car computer enhancement, and the advent of throttle body Injection (TBI), and Fuel Injection Rails to inject metered amounts of fuel into a cars engine. They solved a huge amount of problems that commonly occurred with carburetors, such as hard starting, vapor lock, stalling, rough idle, etc. 

The fuel injector contains a small valve that opens and closes rapidly to allow a fast, fine mist of gasoline or diesel to be injected into the combustion chamber of the engine at the perfect time, in the perfect amount, based on the circumstances of the car engine (ie: the car may be idling, accelerating, decelerating, going uphill, towing a trailer, etc), and each circumstance requires a different response from the injectors to vary the fuel properly. The programming used to determine these conditions is put together in a series of "Fuel Maps", that have pre-designated timing sequences for the injectors.

What Does This Have To Do With An EFIE?

The injectors are actually an incredible invention. Think of them as a miniature high pressure spray gun, that not only opens and closes in micro seconds, but with the computer programming, they are told to pulse faster or slower, and stay open faster or slower depending.

So what determines their pulse rate and timing? The computer programming. But how does the computer know what to tell the injectors? Only ONE way...through the engine sensors. The computer has No Other Way of knowing the condition of the engine. Without the sensors, it would be like a blind man trying to run a race in a country he had never been, having no idea what is around the next corner. 

THAT is where the EFIE comes into play!

Stay tuned for Part Two where I will get into the sensors of the engine that control, and how the EFIE affects them, and why they are necessary for long term gains when using an HHO kit

 

What Is a PWM and Do I Really Need One?

The PWM is used to dial in a more precise amperage of an HHO kit. It allows more experimenting for the best results of each vehicle. For instance: we have had some cars get just as good mileage increase at 18 amps, as they do at 30 amps. So by settling at around 18 amps, the mileage increase was there, Plus, the kit used half of the water as normal, from the reservoir, extending times between refills. This doesn’t always happen...sometimes a car responds better at 25 or 28 amps. The only way to really dial it in, is to test around a little. The PWM allows this tuning capability.

When you initially set up an HHO kit, you  dial in the approximate amperage draw of the kit, simply by varying the amount of electrolyte you put into the reservoir. Smaller generators actually need More electrolyte than the larger ones (our 881 hho kits use Twice the Electrolyte as our 884 hho kits!). Our manual shows approximate quantities for set up. If you put too little, or too much electrolyte, the amperage level is set, and you can only vary it by either diluting with more water (lowering amperage), or adding more electrolyte (increasing the amperage)). By using a PWM, on the other hand, you can add more than normal electrolyte at setup, and use the PWM to control whether you want zero amps (off), up to 35-38 amps (max recommended with our PWM's).

How Do They Work?

PWM's work by simply pulsing/modulating the battery current. They control the current by quick pulses (frequency) and adjusting how long those pulses stay on (duty cycle). Some argue that a PWM can create a better form of HHO gas, but I have not seen any proof that way. We have had many customers over the years, get great results with, and without a PWM. We prefer them on any commercial vehicle or cars that drive a lot in hot weather, as you can manually turn them down in the afternoon, if they are running a bit hot. They are also mandatory if you live in freezing weather climates, since you can add much stronger solutions of electrolyte to keep the water from freezing.

While adding or reducing the amount of HHO gas going into an engine may seem counter-intuitive, with this new technology, it is not. There are no precise formulas telling you exactly how much gas is better for any particular vehicle - only approximate rules, and opinions. That’s why a PWM is nice to dial it in to what is right for your vehicle. There are also more expensive PWM's with constant current control, and ability to add water level sensors/as well as connection options to the throttle body of your vehicle, that could control your hho kit precisely with the accelerator, and we will be introducing one soon; but they are not cheap, not really for a backyard experimenter or someone on a tight budget.

While a PWM is not necessary for an hho kit to operate and get results, we have grown to like them more and more as we dial in and play with the generators to get optimum results.

Liters Per Minute (LPM) Measurements for HHO generators

How Many Liters Per Minute?

When we first began 7 years ago, there were no standards for measuring HHO gas production from a generator (still are no standards today). There were various methods tried from plastic bottles in a bucket of water, to gas/air flow meters, to highly expensive hydrogen meters that no one could afford. One mfg used such a complicated method of measurement, that no one would ever be able to compare test results (he claimed his was absolutely the most efficient units on the market). Ridiculous. 

The upside down plastic bottle in a tank of water was and is most commonly used, but is not accurate and can have so many variables as to make it unreliable. One bottle may be ultra thin and light, another may be a heavier mil thickness, skewing the results. Since the measurement is based on timing, the start and stop times can be off by a few seconds either way, also skewing the results.

But the biggest problem in measuring the accurate production of HHO gas from a generator, is quite frankly, fraud and lying, not the measurement technique.

We used these types of gas/airflow meters instead of the bottles, as we felt they were more accurate. The argument in using these is that the heat and steam produced by an hho generator can also skew the results.

Our original kits were always tested after fully warmed up and broken in. But we found them inconsistent, and decided to not use them for hho generator systems.


How To Fake The Results

I cannot emphasize enough how MOST companies selling hho kits online, FAKE their results. That's why we quit even publishing them - whats the point if everyone is just lying about it? How do they Fake the numbers? Easy. They know you are not paying attention, so here is what most do:They Crank Up amperage/voltage Way higher than normal for short videos.They Don't show amp gauge/voltage meter at same time as gas production.They zoom in close to bubbles and turn up current out of sight of camera. They have NO PROOF and NO VIDEOS of production - so they just make up numbers.

How Can I Tell If They Are Accurate?

Best way to tell- Ask for PROOF. Not just a website claim that anyone can say. Ask to see a video of the kit working, with a visible amp gauge/voltage meter, visible at all times, while taking the measurement. If they can't or won't provide it, it is most likely FAKE. 

Remember, there are a lot of really bad kits out there, sold cheap for a quick buck. They don't care if you get results or not - just want your money. So, buyer beware! If they are willing to fake LPM claims, they are most likely willing to lie about their kits as well.

 



Does Your HHO kit work on both Gas and Diesel engines?

This is another commonly asked question we get quite often when people are just finding out about hho and the on demand hydrogen world. 

The short answer is - Yes!

The long answer: Because our kits create a unique form of hydrogen-oxygen gas, (which is very energetic, and very combustible when ignited inside an engine), the HHO gas will work on any working engine that burns hydrocarbon fuel already. So it will work in all engines currently using gasoline (petrol), diesel, bio-diesel, CNG (Compressed Natural Gas), and LPG (Liquid Propane Gas).

One of our customers driving an LPG conversion Lorry in the UK, got a 50% increase in mileage when he added our hho kit to his vehicle!

If you have an newer vehicle using gasoline, you need an efie/maf tuner for the electronics, which you can see here: http://www.hhokitsdirect.com/collections/all/products/efie-maf-advanced-gas-tuner-for-hho-kits

If your newer vehicle uses diesel or bio-diesel, You will need the Diesel tuner here: http://www.hhokitsdirect.com/collections/all/products/advanced-diesel-tuners-for-hho

If your car is older and still uses a carburetor, or mechanically controlled diesel pump, then the hho kits work fine without tuner chips at all. 

If you still need help- feel free to email us through the contact form on our site, or with Live Chat during normal business hours (MON-FRI; 9 am - 5 pm)

Can You Explain In Simple Terms How HHO kits Work?

This is a common question to people just finding out about HHO gas and the technology behind it.

Here's a quick summary:

Hydrogen Generators, like the type we sell here, are based on the patented discoveries of a William Rhodes and Yull Brown. Both men developed a special type of "Single Cell" electrolyzer that extracted hydrogen and oxygen out of water, but unlike the common practice of separating the two gases, they realized you could actually allow them to combine into one, energetic, very combustible gas.

This gas is created "On Demand", only when engine is running. Nothing is compressed or stored anywhere - it is used immediately as it is made, making it quite safe. The gas is filtered and injected into the air intake of the car, where it is drawn in with the regular air and fuel of the vehicle. It then acts as a "Combustion Catalyst" causing the fuel to burn more quickly and completely. This results in a more efficient engine cycle, reduces emissions, adds pep to the accelerator, and increases the mileage on average from 20-50%. Most of the general public have still never heard of it and are surprised upon its discovery. To read the full explanation go here.

How do I know the right size HHO generator for my car?

This is a very common question that we get every day. We make 4 different sizes to make the choice easier. General rule of thumb to choose the right size HHO kit, is based on engine size.

  • If your engine is a 3 or 4 cylinder, under 2.2 liters, use the 881 HHO kit.
  • If yours is a 6 cylinder up to about 4.6 liters, use the 882 kit (our most popular size)
  • If you have an 8 cylinder up to about 7.6 liters, the 883 is the correct kit
  • The 884 is for everything larger.

Exception to the Rules:

There is some flexibility in the choice. We have found you Can upgrade one size, but not not two. SO if you have a small 4 cylinder engine for instance, and you want to add a larger hho generator, you CAN upgrade one size to an 882 (if you have the room and the budget), for a bit better results. But any larger, you wont see any extra advantage. 

If your car has a Turbo or a supercharger, you are packing as lot more air in the engine, so we find it best to upgrade to the next size hho kit.

CAN'T DECIDE? Here's a Trick You Can Do With Our HHO Generators.

Our 883 hho generator with 3 individual cellsOur HHO Generators are completely unique compared to any other systems sold today. Each cell is individual and separate from the next one. Why does that matter?

Well. look at the 883 pictured here. There are Three cell stacks and four electrode connection terminals. Each stack is separate and individual from the next one. The water flows into the bottom hose barbs, and the saturated gas rises up out of the top ones.

But here is what sets our units apart from others: By disconnecting the power to any one of those terminal connectors, that cell stack stops working, but the other ones continue like nothing happened!

Let's say you have a 6 cylinder car or van, and are thinking at some point you want to buy a bigger vehicle. You have room for the 883, and decide to get it, and just leave one of the outside terminals disconnected until later. You fire it up and it works just like an 882! Maybe you are hauling heavy equipment or a trailer, so you hook it up when you are hauling and unhook it later. 

 

You Cannot do that with a normal dry cell - because the water flows through all the cells. But you CAN do it with ours- now you can customize and custom tune your HHO kit for optimal gains and power.

If you still have questions about how to choose the right size- ask our live chat operator, email, or call during normal business hours, Mon-Fri; 8am-4 pm.